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                     I spent the last week of August way upstate, maybe four or five hours outside of the city, at the home of a friend, the writer Tennessee Jones. Tennessee wrote the gorgeous short-story collection
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                     . It’s a book that I love deeply, and I’m not alone in this; it has become a cult classic. We have known each other for nearly 20 years, and that weekend was a lot of mornings of me sleeping in and Tennessee fixing the panels on his home’s sun porch.
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                      I spent the last week of August way upstate, maybe four or five hours outside of the city, at the home of a friend, the writer Tennessee Jones. Tennessee wrote the gorgeous short-story collection
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                      . It’s a book that I love deeply, and I’m not alone in this; it has become a cult classic. We have known each other for nearly 20 years, and that weekend was a lot of mornings of me sleeping in and Tennessee fixing the panels on his home’s sun porch.
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                     There’s no path to being an artist. That’s why it is such a daunting career choice. MFAs and fellowships and awards can lend shape to a career, and there’s a whole class of writers for whom that path of public accolades alone is the definition of being successful. But then there is the measure of success that is outside of efficiency and accolades: the ability to have complete control over what you create. Joyce Carol Oates has achieved this. Hers is a long life, full of complete creative autonomy.
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                     Oates’s work experiences revivals every few years. When I was in high school in the ’90s, it was one of those periods, and my mentor gave me a copy of Oates’s novel
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                       Foxfire
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                     as a present for working as a counselor at a creative-writing camp. Oates has always had an abiding interest in the inner workings of American girlhood. But she’s more interested in the violence inherent in that position. Her famous short story “Where Are You Going, Where Have You Been?” is a psychological exploration of fight or flight, which anyone menaced by evil has experienced.
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                     is a romantic Robin Hood tale for girls, with a true literary outlaw in Legs (famously played by Angelina Jolie in the 1996 film adaptation).
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                   Foxfire
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                     We are in a current state of frenzy over womanhood and femininity in our culture, a frenzy that can feel bewildering until you read Oates’s novels and realize this is a very old panic, deadly and ever-present. In her most recent novel,
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                      <a rel="noopener" style="text-decoration: underline; color: #0068A5;" target="_blank">
                       Fox
                      </a>
                     </em>
                     , which came out this summer, Oates traces the effects of a single sexual predator in a town, following the ways the girls he targets, the detectives who track him, and the adults who enable him react to the abuser in their midst. I spoke with Oates on an August afternoon over Zoom—me in my office, she in hers, surrounded by books.
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                      Kaitlyn Greenidge:
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                     This most recent novel explores the crimes and pedophilia of a teacher, and what becomes clear in the course of the book is how manipulative this particular character is. I wonder if you can talk a little bit about why you were interested in exploring the connection between these two things, this very particular manipulation that happens in an educational institution?
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                     <strong>
                      Joyce Carol Oates:
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                     There are a lot of factors that really led to writing the novel. One of them is that I do know of a middle school teacher, a man who behaved like this. He was not the person that I created as a fictitious person, and he wasn’t in Jersey—it was somewhere else—but he really got away with it.
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                     I took the idea of somebody in a position [of power] who is also charismatic and actually is a good teacher. That’s the irony. He is actually quite a good teacher, but that’s a shield. It’s like his mask.
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                     I also wanted to explore in the novel—which I’m sure you noticed, because it’s so exasperating—how so many people protected him, especially women, because he flattered them and he’s nice. He’s gentlemanly. I see it in the world so much. We have such slick confidence men, particularly in public office, who just say complete lies, and people believe them. They enable them to really wreak havoc on innocent people. That’s one of the reasons that I wrote that.
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                     Also, exploring the privileged academic world. This school is based a little bit on the Lawrenceville School, which is only about four miles from where I live. I know the campus very well. I was exploring the world of privilege within South Jersey, which has a lot of poverty, exploring the class tensions and stress between the people who are living there and the people who are coming into it.
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                      KG:
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                     That’s one of the things that I’m drawn to in a lot of your work. You are hyperaware of how those big macro institutions, like class, really affect someone’s inner life, what they can understand as possible for themselves. Sometimes, they can’t see around those things.
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                     In larger South Jersey, which is not so affluent, people are so condescending to the people who live there. The people who live there I really identify with, even though I am a teacher at Princeton, because I come from that kind of poor rural class. Now, we didn’t think that we were a class. I don’t know how to express it exactly. I mean, I don’t want to sound self-pitying. It’s just that people there are sort of left behind.
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                     [At the private schools] they give a couple scholarships at the school to somebody in the area, but then when the girl comes to the school, she’s really made to feel awkward, she doesn’t fit in, her hair isn’t quite right. I'm really hyperconscious of that. I was lucky because I came of age a long time ago, when there were lots of scholarships for people who couldn’t afford to go to college. I think it may be different today. I mean, I am grateful for what I had, but I look around today and I feel really anxious about the future for many young people.
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                  COMPLETE LIES,
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                     When you were younger, were you aware of the differences between where you came from and where you were going to school? I mean, it’s a perfect setup to become a writer.
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                      JCO:
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                     It was another era. We didn’t have the internet. Many people, like college-age people, didn’t even watch television. I think the internet and the world that we have today makes people hyperconscious of visual differences, like where people are living, what they’re wearing, what their body type is like.
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                     We didn’t have that. You knew people who lived around you. You might see a picture in a magazine or something, but you weren’t confronted with extreme affluence or a certain kind of beauty or girls looking at very thin girls on TikTok. You knew your neighbors. You knew your classmates. That’s about it. You weren’t really comparing yourself too much, so that’s one answer.
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                     The second answer is, I was always very bookish. I was reading people like Scott Fitzgerald, who dealt with those class issues, and some of Hemingway and his early stories.
                     <em>
                      The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn
                     </em>
                     . I mean, from a student point of view, I was not naive about the class differences.
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                     I’ve been asking a couple different people about how much obsession becomes a part of your writing process. Some people don’t like that word.
                     <br/>
                     <br/>
                     <strong>
                      JCO
                     </strong>
                     : You mean, am I obsessed with writing? Oh, gosh. I’ve written about so many different things. Basically, I spent a lot of time focusing on the form.… I’m more of a formalist, which doesn’t mean I don’t care about people, because I really do. I have ideas and thoughts—political thoughts and moral thoughts. But to me, the actual challenge of writing, minute by minute, is the form of a sentence and a paragraph—putting a word in, taking a word out. Do I want an adverb or do I not want an adverb? It’s on that level, like embroidering or needlepoint.
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                      KG:
                     </strong>
                     That’s one of the things that draws me to novel writing: that the form is wide open.
                     <br/>
                     <br/>
                     <strong>
                      JCO:
                     </strong>
                     Each novel has its own form. With
                     <em>
                      Fox,
                     </em>
                     I wanted to have a novel with two endings.… I might try to do something like that again because as I get older, I see things in my childhood that now I understand a little better. It gives you another perspective.
                     <br/>
                     <br/>
                     My brother died not too long ago, and he was my younger brother. Since then, I’ve become really close with his widow, my sister-in-law, whom I didn’t know all that well before. I’ve been doing a lot of back-and-forth emails, long emails, because we’re both widows. I’m learning things about my brother. I mean, they were not negative things, just things I didn’t know. It’s ever more dimensions.
                     <br/>
                     <br/>
                     That’s my belief, that life is like that. If you end the novel right with an ending, it’s somehow a little bit arbitrary. Maybe we should go five years later, see how that works out.
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                  <em>
                   “As I get
                  </em>
                  OLDER,
                  <em>
                   I see things
                   <br/>
                   in my
                  </em>
                  CHILDHOOD
                  <em>
                   that now
                   <br/>
                   I understand a little better.
                   <br/>
                   It gives you
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                  ANOTHER
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                  <em>
                   ”
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                   “As I get
                  </em>
                  OLDER,
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                   I see things
                   <br/>
                   in my
                  </em>
                  CHILDHOOD
                  <em>
                   that now
                   <br/>
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                   <br/>
                   It gives you
                  </em>
                  ANOTHER
                  <br/>
                  PERSPECTIVE.
                  <em>
                   ”
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                     <strong>
                      KG:
                     </strong>
                     I remember when I first started writing, I would have this internal debate about endings because they always felt so artificial, and they’re so difficult to do.
                     <br/>
                     <br/>
                     <strong>
                      JCO:
                     </strong>
                     One thing everybody has been asking me, though you didn’t, is about
                     <em>
                      Lolita.
                     </em>
                     I wasn’t really thinking too much about it at the time, but what
                     <em>
                      Fox
                     </em>
                     does is it allows the girls to speak. It gives the girls more amplitude and presence. Whereas in Nabokov’s novel, of course, it’s from one person’s perspective; it’s the male Humbert. Every word is his, and we don’t get to hear Lolita except through his filter.
                     <br/>
                     <br/>
                     Now, in
                     <em>
                      Lolita,
                     </em>
                     the sexual predator is really never punished, and he just kind of gets away with it. But in real life, there are a lot of consequences, and I wanted to ascertain that there would be consequences in the novel.
                     <br/>
                     <br/>
                     <strong>
                      KG:
                     </strong>
                     One of the things that I admire about this novel is Mr. Fox isn’t really glamorized. In
                     <em>
                      Lolita,
                     </em>
                     a famous thing about that novel is to misread Humbert Humbert as an aspiration, as someone to darkly admire. You cannot really do that with the character in this book.
                     <br/>
                     <br/>
                     <strong>
                      JCO:
                     </strong>
                     If you see Mr. Fox from a distance, he’s well-dressed, he’s handsome, he’s smiling. But then the detectives, they go into his apartment and they see this squalid place. The Venetian blind is broken. We’re looking at the real person, and the rest of the world saw this external person. That’s one of the things I wanted to do with
                     <em>
                      Fox
                     </em>
                     . There’s the public confidence man. He fools a lot of people. But in real life, it was a squalid life. He died pretty abruptly, and then he’s dismembered. So it’s revenge.
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                   Joyce Carol Oates
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                  Joyce Carol Oates
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                   Joyce Carol Oates is a prolific novelist, with work spanning the last six decades of American literature. Her novels include
                   <em>
                    them
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                   ,
                   <em>
                    Blonde
                   </em>
                   ,
                   <em>
                    Because It Is Bitter, and Because It Is My Heart,
                   </em>
                   and
                   <em>
                    Foxfire: Confessions of a Girl Gang.
                   </em>
                   She has won numerous awards for her writing, including a National Book Award, two O. Henry Awards, and a National Humanities Medal. Her most recent novel, published in June 2025, is
                   <em>
                    Fox.
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                     In July of 2020, four months after Covid’s deadly arrival in New York City, my husband and I rented an Airbnb in the Catskills so we could breathe and I could work on my first book. The owners, we learned, are a part of a family of bankers who’d served as advisers to various presidents and on the boards of various museums.
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