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I get obsessed with things. During my undergraduate years I fell absolutely in love with the book
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This was about 10 years ago. Ever since, I’ve always searched for other books to scratch the same itch, but there aren’t that many around. So about two years ago, I began researching and writing about these topics myself. My hope, I guess, is that my readers derive even a fraction of the pleasure from Privatdozent as I did from A Beautiful Mind.
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Jørgen Veisdal.
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I’m sure it’s a cliché, but stories tend to find me rather than the other way around. My routine is to get up as early as possible and start reading. If I manage to get into that rare, right state of mind, I’ll start editing and adding information based on things I remember, former essays I’ve written, books, and research papers. I have a decent collection of books to draw from at home and often find myself wandering around the math section of the university library (I’m an associate professor by day).
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Earlier this year I also began collecting original data. I’ve been lucky enough to get to interview the descendants of some of the characters I write about, who actually remember what they were like. Over time, the content from these conversations will find its way to the newsletter. I will also continue to invest in audio editions of my essays, published as
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, read by Steve King.
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Writings on the history of mathematics and physics tend to be about quirky people … As far as I can gather, genius and eccentricity do indeed often go hand in hand.
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What themes do you see come up again and again when writing about this field of history?
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Albert Einstein once wrote of quantum physicist Paul Dirac, “This balancing on the dizzying path between genius and madness is awful.” That is to say, writings on the history of mathematics and physics tend to be about quirky people. My essays are no exception. As far as I can gather, genius and eccentricity do indeed often go hand in hand.
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Everyone knows that Nash was schizophrenic. He is, however, far from the only brilliant mathematician/physicist who struggled with mental issues. Georg Cantor was in and out of insane asylums for most of his life. As was Gödel, who eventually died from self-starvation due to “personality disturbances,” at 29 kilograms (64 pounds), in 1978. Ramanujan died from malnutrition. Turing committed suicide, as did Boltzmann. Wiener suffered from extensive periods of depression, as did Erdős, who took amphetamines for a large part of his life. Dirac was autistic, at times incommunicado. After being awarded the Fields Medal (mathematics’ highest honor), Alexander Grothendieck abruptly resigned his professorship and disappeared into the French Pyrenees, practically never heard from again. Gregori Perelman refused to accept his Fields Medal, as well as the $1 million Clay Millennium Prize that came with it. He now reportedly lives with his mother in Moscow.
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